Dave Irwin who chaired the sesssion is worth including. He told me that he retained a lot of old Mendip survey data which could form the basis of a pilot scheme. I think if we trail the draft cave-specific fonts around other ongoing discussion groups we might turn up constructive and supportive individuals who could make a permanent contribution. It would be nice to get the S.Wales cave surveyors on board but IPR is still a very sensitive topic there. Harry